Jenn: That’s great, yeah I totally agree with that. I think travel is another thing that can really re-invigorate.
Chris: Oh yeah.
Claire: Yeah, and also just looking through art books really helps.
Chris: Okay, friends, here’s a little bit of a loaded question for you. What are you most looking forward to about our story design conference in Rome?
Brian: I’m really good at saying whatever happens, happens and however it goes it goes and what I learn, I learn, you know? Actually I’m thinking about what I’ll learn being there.
Chris: Uh huh, me too.
Brian: Yeah, and what I find is, sometimes when people…again I see this with students a lot…they’ll come in with an agenda. So they’ll come in and say, “I want to learn how to write subtext.” That would be their agenda. Now I don’t know that’s their agenda, but that would be their agenda. And what happens is, and I’ve seen this on my evaluation sometimes, they’ll learn a bunch of things and oh my god, light bulbs are going off they learn so many things and on and on and on, but they’ll say, “I don’t know though that the class was so great because I didn’t learn about something.” They’ve disregarded everything else that they’ve learned so I’m always just like, whatever I learn is good, whatever happens is good and I don’t want to close myself off to any part of the experience.
Chris: That’s great.
Jenn: I’m really excited about more of this. I’m excited to watch the classes that you guys are teaching and learn from those. I mean it’s just so rare to get to sit down and have conversations like this and both in listening to other people’s answers and thinking like, what do I think about that? It’s great, it kind of brings you back to things that should kind of always be there but it’s like Claire was saying at the beginning of just like having to like relearn and reup yourself on certain ideas and keep them present in your mind, you know? I think that’s great and really inspiring and invigorating for me personally.
Chris: Yeah, I’ve realized that recently that there is a lot to think about when you’re trying to be a good artist, or a good storyteller, or a good visual storyteller, and do both. There’s so much to think about and so much to keep track of that I found that without even realizing, that’s the reason I have so many conversations, many of them recorded and put out on a podcast but also many of them just…in every other aspect of my life, every day. And I’ve realized that part of that is me just trying to figure out what I’m doing here. Well anyway, so there’s that.
Claire: I would kind of what Jenn just said, I’m really looking forward to what you guys have to say about the whole process, just kind of to further this discussion, I’m really looking forward to being in Rome!
Chris: I’m really proud of you Claire for not just saying pizza. It’s going to be so good, I can’t wait. Well friends, I cannot thank you enough for your time today. I had high expectations for this conversation and yet you’ve exceeded them. I can’t even begin to express how just routinely impressed I am by all of you and very much looking forward to teaching alongside of you and with you at the conference. Let’s do a quick round of links here if you could. Just tell the good people how they can find you and your work online. Let’s start with Claire.
Claire: ClarieOnACloud.com which I am currently updating.
Chris: And Jenn?
Jenn: Just my name, JennEly.com, JenniferEly.com will also get you there and I’m kind of always building and rebuilding the site as well. But you can find links to pretty much anything else – my Twitter and all that from that home base.
Chris: And Ely is E-L-Y.
Jenn: Ely. JennEly…
Chris: And Brian…
Brian: Well probably the best thing what you can do, you can find me on Twitter @BeeMacDee1950. You can go to my blog which I need to get back to, but there’s still good stuff on there – InvisibleInkBlog.blogspot.com, yeah.
Chris: And we will of course link to everyone’s site, and Twitters, and so forth in the blog post associated with this podcast episode which you can find at OatleyAcademy.com/nofear2. Okay friends, thank you again. Thank you so much, and yeah, I’ll see you in Rome. Good god!
Brian: Thank you Jenn, thank you Claire!
Jenn: Thank you!
Chris: All revved up.
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Okay, so that brings us to the end of Artcast 93. Thank you so much for listening and sharing the show. Until next time, stay strong, and stay close.
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