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		<title>Comment on The Social Mirror by Chris Oatley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Oatley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2012 17:38:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sam, I leave links open here in the comments BECAUSE of people like you who take responsibility for not only your own artistic growth but the growth of others.  Thank you for blogging and linking.

I rarely have a problem with people doing drive-by link dumps. 

You&#039;re one of my favorite people on the whole internet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sam, I leave links open here in the comments BECAUSE of people like you who take responsibility for not only your own artistic growth but the growth of others.  Thank you for blogging and linking.</p>
<p>I rarely have a problem with people doing drive-by link dumps. </p>
<p>You&#8217;re one of my favorite people on the whole internet.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Social Mirror by Chris Oatley</title>
		<link>http://chrisoatley.com/2010/10/11/7ssocialmirrors/comment-page-1/#comment-6122</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Oatley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2012 17:33:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are a wise man, Scott WISEr.</description>
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		<title>Comment on An Inspiration Lost: &#8216;Tron Uprising&#8217; Technical Director, ArtCast Guest: Pete Kranjcevich by Lee Wiley</title>
		<link>http://chrisoatley.com/2012/04/20/lost-tron-technical-director-pete-kranjcevich/comment-page-1/#comment-6113</link>
		<dc:creator>Lee Wiley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2012 14:54:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A great loss indeed, what amazing work he produced, and it&#039;s great to see that he did what he loved. Thank you for sharing some insight into Pete with us.</description>
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		<title>Comment on Is Your Concept Art Portfolio Versatile Or Just Confusing? by Jeff Lai</title>
		<link>http://chrisoatley.com/2012/05/09/concept-art-portfolio-confusing/comment-page-1/#comment-6102</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Lai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2012 10:52:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i&#039;m freelancing from NZ at the moment. 
Who knows, hopefully i&#039;ll make it over there eventually!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i&#8217;m freelancing from NZ at the moment.<br />
Who knows, hopefully i&#8217;ll make it over there eventually!</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Social Mirror by Scott Wiser</title>
		<link>http://chrisoatley.com/2010/10/11/7ssocialmirrors/comment-page-1/#comment-6021</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Wiser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 May 2012 17:17:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops, sorry - I have an unfinished sentence and grammatical errors to fix:
&quot;Someone at random [with whom] I have [an invigorating chat].&quot;
&quot;we forget [to] focus on the amazing mirrors around us.&quot;</description>
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&#8220;Someone at random [with whom] I have [an invigorating chat].&#8221;<br />
&#8220;we forget [to] focus on the amazing mirrors around us.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Is Your Concept Art Portfolio Versatile Or Just Confusing? by Chris Oatley</title>
		<link>http://chrisoatley.com/2012/05/09/concept-art-portfolio-confusing/comment-page-1/#comment-5973</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Oatley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 May 2012 07:00:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow! That is so encouraging to hear, Jeff!
Did you move out here to LA?  Or are you freelancing from NZ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow! That is so encouraging to hear, Jeff!<br />
Did you move out here to LA?  Or are you freelancing from NZ?</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Social Mirror by Scott Wiser</title>
		<link>http://chrisoatley.com/2010/10/11/7ssocialmirrors/comment-page-1/#comment-5942</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Wiser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 May 2012 03:20:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, so I hopped in the shower after writing my whiny reply above and realized I should have posted these thoughts instead:

As the water poured over my brain, I couldn&#039;t think of a single person I&#039;ve met who isn&#039;t a &quot;social mirror&quot; of sort. People who do something I can&#039;t stand until I realize I do the same thing. People who inspire me. Someone at random who I have an And some of the greatest social mirrors are people I&#039;ve served in some way. 

Perhaps the distorted view of ourselves comes when we forget focus on the amazing mirrors around us - and focus too much thought (positive or negative) on ourselves. Lightbulb!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, so I hopped in the shower after writing my whiny reply above and realized I should have posted these thoughts instead:</p>
<p>As the water poured over my brain, I couldn&#8217;t think of a single person I&#8217;ve met who isn&#8217;t a &#8220;social mirror&#8221; of sort. People who do something I can&#8217;t stand until I realize I do the same thing. People who inspire me. Someone at random who I have an And some of the greatest social mirrors are people I&#8217;ve served in some way. </p>
<p>Perhaps the distorted view of ourselves comes when we forget focus on the amazing mirrors around us &#8211; and focus too much thought (positive or negative) on ourselves. Lightbulb!</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Social Mirror by Scott Wiser</title>
		<link>http://chrisoatley.com/2010/10/11/7ssocialmirrors/comment-page-1/#comment-5937</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Wiser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 May 2012 02:53:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You so totally rock, Sam. Mentioned you above and it will be fun to meet you in person one day. Keep it up. I loved your &quot;you just turned my monitor into a mirror&quot; comment! I really think that&#039;s a reason we love great stories, characters, and real live inspire-rs alike  - they&#039;re mirrors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You so totally rock, Sam. Mentioned you above and it will be fun to meet you in person one day. Keep it up. I loved your &#8220;you just turned my monitor into a mirror&#8221; comment! I really think that&#8217;s a reason we love great stories, characters, and real live inspire-rs alike  &#8211; they&#8217;re mirrors.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Social Mirror by Scott Wiser</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Wiser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 May 2012 02:47:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I totally pick #2.)  Demonstrable progress toward an ideal.

And I totally agree that things can get distorted quickly. My &quot;distorted truth&quot; as of late comes from discouragement - from several opportunities that have recently seemed like they might work out and haven&#039;t. And I know I shouldn&#039;t get discouraged because I have great &quot;social mirrors&quot; like Sam Kirkman, my Father-In-Law, Chris Oatley, Rudy (from the movie of the same name), pioneers from the 1800&#039;s, my wife, etc (In no specific order) that prove to me that persistence pays. 

Fortunately, something keeps me creating with my pedal to the metal. And while social mirrors aren&#039;t my biggest source of inspiration, I&#039;ve just realized how HUGE they are. Thanks for this post - I&#039;ll be thinking a bunch about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I totally pick #2.)  Demonstrable progress toward an ideal.</p>
<p>And I totally agree that things can get distorted quickly. My &#8220;distorted truth&#8221; as of late comes from discouragement &#8211; from several opportunities that have recently seemed like they might work out and haven&#8217;t. And I know I shouldn&#8217;t get discouraged because I have great &#8220;social mirrors&#8221; like Sam Kirkman, my Father-In-Law, Chris Oatley, Rudy (from the movie of the same name), pioneers from the 1800&#8242;s, my wife, etc (In no specific order) that prove to me that persistence pays. </p>
<p>Fortunately, something keeps me creating with my pedal to the metal. And while social mirrors aren&#8217;t my biggest source of inspiration, I&#8217;ve just realized how HUGE they are. Thanks for this post &#8211; I&#8217;ll be thinking a bunch about it.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Is Your Concept Art Portfolio Versatile Or Just Confusing? by Jeff Lai</title>
		<link>http://chrisoatley.com/2012/05/09/concept-art-portfolio-confusing/comment-page-1/#comment-5881</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Lai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 May 2012 04:27:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That was a really good post!
I think it would have been helpful in my earlier days!
It has taken me a while to figure out what I actually wanted to specialize in and want to do. I&#039;ve jumped around quite abit (which you can probably tell from seeing my work) from fantasy art, kids books, I even did some commercial illustration which sucked the life out of me.
Even when I met you at CTN, I was still abit unsure.

Somehow In the end, I found I liked animating and this lead me to storyboarding! So now I&#039;m doing storyboards for the animated Spiderman show!  (Such an odd turn of events!)

(P.S. Hope you are doing well!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That was a really good post!<br />
I think it would have been helpful in my earlier days!<br />
It has taken me a while to figure out what I actually wanted to specialize in and want to do. I&#8217;ve jumped around quite abit (which you can probably tell from seeing my work) from fantasy art, kids books, I even did some commercial illustration which sucked the life out of me.<br />
Even when I met you at CTN, I was still abit unsure.</p>
<p>Somehow In the end, I found I liked animating and this lead me to storyboarding! So now I&#8217;m doing storyboards for the animated Spiderman show!  (Such an odd turn of events!)</p>
<p>(P.S. Hope you are doing well!)</p>
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		<title>Comment on Is Your Concept Art Portfolio Versatile Or Just Confusing? by Chris Oatley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Oatley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2012 18:38:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yepper. Good &quot;connecting the dots&quot; there, Scott.</description>
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		<title>Comment on Is Your Concept Art Portfolio Versatile Or Just Confusing? by Chris Oatley</title>
		<link>http://chrisoatley.com/2012/05/09/concept-art-portfolio-confusing/comment-page-1/#comment-5841</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Oatley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2012 18:37:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, Mark. I&#039;m always trying to encourage artists to separate &quot;play&quot; are from &quot;audition&quot; art (for the portfolio).

There&#039;s a difference, but for some reason, artists (especially young&#039;ns) feel the need to throw every piece they&#039;ve ever finished into the portfolio.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, Mark. I&#8217;m always trying to encourage artists to separate &#8220;play&#8221; are from &#8220;audition&#8221; art (for the portfolio).</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a difference, but for some reason, artists (especially young&#8217;ns) feel the need to throw every piece they&#8217;ve ever finished into the portfolio.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Is Your Concept Art Portfolio Versatile Or Just Confusing? by Chris Oatley</title>
		<link>http://chrisoatley.com/2012/05/09/concept-art-portfolio-confusing/comment-page-1/#comment-5840</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Oatley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2012 18:36:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Michelle. 

It&#039;s so great that you&#039;ve found this new focus.

And, to be clear, it doesn&#039;t mean you CAN&#039;T do the other stuff.  Just don&#039;t put it in the portfolio unless it can help to &quot;build your case&quot; for that specific job - as I was just explaining to Kevin (comments above).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Michelle. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s so great that you&#8217;ve found this new focus.</p>
<p>And, to be clear, it doesn&#8217;t mean you CAN&#8217;T do the other stuff.  Just don&#8217;t put it in the portfolio unless it can help to &#8220;build your case&#8221; for that specific job &#8211; as I was just explaining to Kevin (comments above).</p>
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		<title>Comment on Is Your Concept Art Portfolio Versatile Or Just Confusing? by Scott Wiser</title>
		<link>http://chrisoatley.com/2012/05/09/concept-art-portfolio-confusing/comment-page-1/#comment-5829</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Wiser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2012 14:58:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Chris, great thoughts! After reading this, I was reminded what you mentioned on Paper Wings this week- when you were breaking into the animation industry, you would produce your art with Art-Of-Movie books opened on either side of you. This is not only a fast method of gauging quality, but also a great way to inspire you to raise your work to the level it needs to be. I often do this with my favorite pieces of animation - studying frame by frame really unlocks some magic!

On the subject of visual development, I&#039;ve been recently developing some characters and as I gathered reference from real-life sources, I also gathered pictures of characters I felt carried the qualities I was looking for on this specific project. I think drawing them as part of my exploration process really raised my bar on quality - that, an thinking about who the characters really are on the inside.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Chris, great thoughts! After reading this, I was reminded what you mentioned on Paper Wings this week- when you were breaking into the animation industry, you would produce your art with Art-Of-Movie books opened on either side of you. This is not only a fast method of gauging quality, but also a great way to inspire you to raise your work to the level it needs to be. I often do this with my favorite pieces of animation &#8211; studying frame by frame really unlocks some magic!</p>
<p>On the subject of visual development, I&#8217;ve been recently developing some characters and as I gathered reference from real-life sources, I also gathered pictures of characters I felt carried the qualities I was looking for on this specific project. I think drawing them as part of my exploration process really raised my bar on quality &#8211; that, an thinking about who the characters really are on the inside.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Is Your Concept Art Portfolio Versatile Or Just Confusing? by Mark Keller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Keller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2012 07:12:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks so much for the insight. I think as artists we don&#039;t want to pigeon hole ourselves into one specialty. However, sometimes it is this specialty that gives us the unique quality that fits the right job (or the job fits our specialty ;) ). Specialty can also give us artists the ability to sharpen our skills and deepen our experience in that one specialty (excellence!). This doesn&#039;t mean we can&#039;t dabble in other styles, just that versatility needs to have a a solid core. I like what Chris said, (paraphrasing) &quot;If you are passionate about a style, then get good at it...&quot; (I&#039;m talking to myself here...) Where your passion lies, your style lies!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks so much for the insight. I think as artists we don&#8217;t want to pigeon hole ourselves into one specialty. However, sometimes it is this specialty that gives us the unique quality that fits the right job (or the job fits our specialty <img src='http://chrisoatley.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  ). Specialty can also give us artists the ability to sharpen our skills and deepen our experience in that one specialty (excellence!). This doesn&#8217;t mean we can&#8217;t dabble in other styles, just that versatility needs to have a a solid core. I like what Chris said, (paraphrasing) &#8220;If you are passionate about a style, then get good at it&#8230;&#8221; (I&#8217;m talking to myself here&#8230;) Where your passion lies, your style lies!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Is Your Concept Art Portfolio Versatile Or Just Confusing? by Michelle Papapdopoulos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michelle Papapdopoulos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2012 02:24:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, I just had an epiphany after writing that last comment and pondering on the walk home.  I think I will focus on fantasy illustration.  It&#039;s what I enjoy the most and I can do it on the side of my full-time job for now... one day, maybe Illustration full-time. Who says you can&#039;t switch focus later if you want, you don&#039;t have to do it ALL right now.  

Thanks for letting me vent, it actually helped! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, I just had an epiphany after writing that last comment and pondering on the walk home.  I think I will focus on fantasy illustration.  It&#8217;s what I enjoy the most and I can do it on the side of my full-time job for now&#8230; one day, maybe Illustration full-time. Who says you can&#8217;t switch focus later if you want, you don&#8217;t have to do it ALL right now.  </p>
<p>Thanks for letting me vent, it actually helped! <img src='http://chrisoatley.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Is Your Concept Art Portfolio Versatile Or Just Confusing? by Michelle Papadopoulos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michelle Papadopoulos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2012 00:42:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, this is a great post with some great comments!  I&#039;ve been a luker for a while but I really should get involved more.  Thanks Chris and Lora for this site and the podcasts!

This is a major issue I&#039;m trying to deal with.   I currently work in video games (mainly Flash animation) but I want to get into Illustration or Concept Art.  The problem is, I can&#039;t decided what exactly I want to do. Sometimes I think concept art for movies or video games, sometimes it&#039;s Illustration, or make a graphic novel, or do matte paintings or 3D modeling, texturing, or backgrounds since I&#039;m in the gaming industry already.  Arrggh, I WISH I could just FOCUS, so I could work on that one thing and get great at it!  I seem to like fantasy-ish women, creatures, and underwater best but I don&#039;t know how that would fit in or if it would be marketable. But I guess if you focus and get great at something, that would eventually become marketable, is that right?  

I wonder why it&#039;s so difficult for some people to find a focus and easy for others?  I would give my left leg to find a focus and stick with it!

Soon I&#039;ll be going to IMC for the first time and I hope that may help me narrow it down.

Any other suggestions?  Or is it just something you have to figure out over the years?

Thanks!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, this is a great post with some great comments!  I&#8217;ve been a luker for a while but I really should get involved more.  Thanks Chris and Lora for this site and the podcasts!</p>
<p>This is a major issue I&#8217;m trying to deal with.   I currently work in video games (mainly Flash animation) but I want to get into Illustration or Concept Art.  The problem is, I can&#8217;t decided what exactly I want to do. Sometimes I think concept art for movies or video games, sometimes it&#8217;s Illustration, or make a graphic novel, or do matte paintings or 3D modeling, texturing, or backgrounds since I&#8217;m in the gaming industry already.  Arrggh, I WISH I could just FOCUS, so I could work on that one thing and get great at it!  I seem to like fantasy-ish women, creatures, and underwater best but I don&#8217;t know how that would fit in or if it would be marketable. But I guess if you focus and get great at something, that would eventually become marketable, is that right?  </p>
<p>I wonder why it&#8217;s so difficult for some people to find a focus and easy for others?  I would give my left leg to find a focus and stick with it!</p>
<p>Soon I&#8217;ll be going to IMC for the first time and I hope that may help me narrow it down.</p>
<p>Any other suggestions?  Or is it just something you have to figure out over the years?</p>
<p>Thanks!!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Is Your Concept Art Portfolio Versatile Or Just Confusing? by Kevin Cameron</title>
		<link>http://chrisoatley.com/2012/05/09/concept-art-portfolio-confusing/comment-page-1/#comment-5778</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Cameron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2012 22:16:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This makes me feel much better. Thanks Chris!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This makes me feel much better. Thanks Chris!!!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Is Your Concept Art Portfolio Versatile Or Just Confusing? by Chris Oatley</title>
		<link>http://chrisoatley.com/2012/05/09/concept-art-portfolio-confusing/comment-page-1/#comment-5777</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Oatley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2012 22:06:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good stuff, David. Can you elaborate on &quot;disassembling the old portfolio&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good stuff, David. Can you elaborate on &#8220;disassembling the old portfolio&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Is Your Concept Art Portfolio Versatile Or Just Confusing? by David Wilson</title>
		<link>http://chrisoatley.com/2012/05/09/concept-art-portfolio-confusing/comment-page-1/#comment-5774</link>
		<dc:creator>David Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2012 21:54:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kevin-
I was in exactly the same shoes 3 years ago- just ask Chris, he was a great help for me. I worked as a packaging designer and did freelance illustration work. You&#039;ve already got a broader body of work then I did.
MAKE your portfolio what YOU want it to be, give yourself assignments that you would want to get from a client. Nail it, then do it again. It also helps to disassemble the old portfolio with purpose to see where you really stand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin-<br />
I was in exactly the same shoes 3 years ago- just ask Chris, he was a great help for me. I worked as a packaging designer and did freelance illustration work. You&#8217;ve already got a broader body of work then I did.<br />
MAKE your portfolio what YOU want it to be, give yourself assignments that you would want to get from a client. Nail it, then do it again. It also helps to disassemble the old portfolio with purpose to see where you really stand.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Is Your Concept Art Portfolio Versatile Or Just Confusing? by Chris Oatley</title>
		<link>http://chrisoatley.com/2012/05/09/concept-art-portfolio-confusing/comment-page-1/#comment-5770</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Oatley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2012 21:37:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just do the kind of work you want to get hired for.

I really do think it&#039;s that simple.

You drastically increase your chances of getting hired for the kind of work you want to do if you can put your stuff online in a place where the right people will see your work (like DA).

But the point above still applies.  Emphasize the areas where you can deliver excellence.  If your environments aren&#039;t visibly as strong as your characters, then don&#039;t put them in the portfolio.  If you&#039;re passionate about doing environments, then get good and THEN put them in the portfolio.  If you&#039;re not passionate about environments, there&#039;s always character design.

Yeah?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just do the kind of work you want to get hired for.</p>
<p>I really do think it&#8217;s that simple.</p>
<p>You drastically increase your chances of getting hired for the kind of work you want to do if you can put your stuff online in a place where the right people will see your work (like DA).</p>
<p>But the point above still applies.  Emphasize the areas where you can deliver excellence.  If your environments aren&#8217;t visibly as strong as your characters, then don&#8217;t put them in the portfolio.  If you&#8217;re passionate about doing environments, then get good and THEN put them in the portfolio.  If you&#8217;re not passionate about environments, there&#8217;s always character design.</p>
<p>Yeah?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Is Your Concept Art Portfolio Versatile Or Just Confusing? by Chris Oatley</title>
		<link>http://chrisoatley.com/2012/05/09/concept-art-portfolio-confusing/comment-page-1/#comment-5768</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Oatley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2012 21:31:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kevin, this is a SUPER-IMPORTANT question (which is why I wanted to answer it here).

Page by page, the portfolio builds a case for hiring the artist represented by the portfolio.  

Sometimes a portfolio builds a STRONG case for hiring an artist and most of the time, portfolios build a weak case or don&#039;t build a case at all.  They often confuse the portfolio reviewer and/or showcase weak work.

Often, the portfolio is the ONLY thing that will speak on your behalf because the reviewer is flipping through it while chugging coffee, alone in a conference room at a studio in Burbank while the artist is back home in Winnipeg, Canada or where-the-heck-ever painting.  That said, the MESSAGE of the portfolio must be strong and it must be crystal clear.

Do NOT put ANYTHING in your portfolio that doesn&#039;t support the case in favor of hiring you.  The message sent by EVERY SINGLE PAGE in the portfolio MUST be: &quot;This artist is THE ABSOLUTE BEST PERSON for the job.&quot; 

If you are great at characters AND environments, then wonderful.  That&#039;s true versatility.  Put both in your portfolio.  

But if you&#039;re GREAT at characters but your environments are &quot;just okay&quot; (and you only put them in there because somebody told you to &quot;show more versatility&quot;) then cut them out.  They&#039;re adding confusion to the case.  The environments, in fact, are arguing AGAINST the case in favor of hiring you.  

It&#039;s as if you sent two people with opposite opinions to the conference room to speak with the reviewer on your behalf - and they are arguing.  

One &quot;voice&quot; is saying:  &quot;This artist is the absolute best person for the job! Look at all these different characters!  They&#039;re all so appealing and imaginative!  I bet he can draw ANYTHING!  You gotta hire him now!  If you don&#039;t hire him someone else is going to grab him and you&#039;ll be kicking yourself when he wins an Annie Award for character design!&quot; 

But the other voice is saying:  &quot;Hang on! Look at those mediocre environments.  Who&#039;s this kid trying fool?  Look at the perspective there.  He can&#039;t draw.  You hire him and he&#039;s going to flake out.  He&#039;s not versatile at all.  And there&#039;s no WAY he&#039;ll be able to handle the demands of the production pipeline.&quot;

Versatility is great in theory. But theory is not reality.  In reality, people get hired because they can deliver excellence and expertise and because they have good reputations.

Versatility (TRUE versatility) is a plus but it&#039;s NOT point #1. It&#039;s something you gain with experience.  It&#039;s gained with pencil and brush mileage and determination and not being afraid to face the hard truths about yourself and your work.

So, only show work that demonstrates excellence.  Less is more.  

Emphasize excellence WAY over versatility.

Am I making sense?

The myth of versatility leads people to just put everything in their portfolios.  And maybe you ARE one of the ten people in the entire industry who literally CAN do everything and if so, why are you reading MY blog?  ;)  

But if you&#039;re like most of us, you have one or a few areas of strength where you can deliver excellence time and time again.

That&#039;s the &quot;voice&quot; that will speak on your behalf.  Don&#039;t invite the arguing voice to your portfolio review.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin, this is a SUPER-IMPORTANT question (which is why I wanted to answer it here).</p>
<p>Page by page, the portfolio builds a case for hiring the artist represented by the portfolio.  </p>
<p>Sometimes a portfolio builds a STRONG case for hiring an artist and most of the time, portfolios build a weak case or don&#8217;t build a case at all.  They often confuse the portfolio reviewer and/or showcase weak work.</p>
<p>Often, the portfolio is the ONLY thing that will speak on your behalf because the reviewer is flipping through it while chugging coffee, alone in a conference room at a studio in Burbank while the artist is back home in Winnipeg, Canada or where-the-heck-ever painting.  That said, the MESSAGE of the portfolio must be strong and it must be crystal clear.</p>
<p>Do NOT put ANYTHING in your portfolio that doesn&#8217;t support the case in favor of hiring you.  The message sent by EVERY SINGLE PAGE in the portfolio MUST be: &#8220;This artist is THE ABSOLUTE BEST PERSON for the job.&#8221; </p>
<p>If you are great at characters AND environments, then wonderful.  That&#8217;s true versatility.  Put both in your portfolio.  </p>
<p>But if you&#8217;re GREAT at characters but your environments are &#8220;just okay&#8221; (and you only put them in there because somebody told you to &#8220;show more versatility&#8221;) then cut them out.  They&#8217;re adding confusion to the case.  The environments, in fact, are arguing AGAINST the case in favor of hiring you.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s as if you sent two people with opposite opinions to the conference room to speak with the reviewer on your behalf &#8211; and they are arguing.  </p>
<p>One &#8220;voice&#8221; is saying:  &#8220;This artist is the absolute best person for the job! Look at all these different characters!  They&#8217;re all so appealing and imaginative!  I bet he can draw ANYTHING!  You gotta hire him now!  If you don&#8217;t hire him someone else is going to grab him and you&#8217;ll be kicking yourself when he wins an Annie Award for character design!&#8221; </p>
<p>But the other voice is saying:  &#8220;Hang on! Look at those mediocre environments.  Who&#8217;s this kid trying fool?  Look at the perspective there.  He can&#8217;t draw.  You hire him and he&#8217;s going to flake out.  He&#8217;s not versatile at all.  And there&#8217;s no WAY he&#8217;ll be able to handle the demands of the production pipeline.&#8221;</p>
<p>Versatility is great in theory. But theory is not reality.  In reality, people get hired because they can deliver excellence and expertise and because they have good reputations.</p>
<p>Versatility (TRUE versatility) is a plus but it&#8217;s NOT point #1. It&#8217;s something you gain with experience.  It&#8217;s gained with pencil and brush mileage and determination and not being afraid to face the hard truths about yourself and your work.</p>
<p>So, only show work that demonstrates excellence.  Less is more.  </p>
<p>Emphasize excellence WAY over versatility.</p>
<p>Am I making sense?</p>
<p>The myth of versatility leads people to just put everything in their portfolios.  And maybe you ARE one of the ten people in the entire industry who literally CAN do everything and if so, why are you reading MY blog?  <img src='http://chrisoatley.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />   </p>
<p>But if you&#8217;re like most of us, you have one or a few areas of strength where you can deliver excellence time and time again.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s the &#8220;voice&#8221; that will speak on your behalf.  Don&#8217;t invite the arguing voice to your portfolio review.</p>
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		<link>http://chrisoatley.com/2012/05/09/concept-art-portfolio-confusing/comment-page-1/#comment-5766</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Cameron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2012 20:44:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OH! And another one!

My resume is really stilted towards design - apparel, toys, ads, etc. because that&#039;s where I keep finding work. They like the idea of &quot;a designer who can draw&quot; or something :p

Yet I want more work in illustration - concepts, character design, one-offs for product, etc. However I can see one potential problem - that my work experience runs contrary to what I apply for! What&#039;s a good apprach to upselling the design experience in an illustration world? That is, show em I&#039;m an &quot;illustrator who can design&quot; :p</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OH! And another one!</p>
<p>My resume is really stilted towards design &#8211; apparel, toys, ads, etc. because that&#8217;s where I keep finding work. They like the idea of &#8220;a designer who can draw&#8221; or something :p</p>
<p>Yet I want more work in illustration &#8211; concepts, character design, one-offs for product, etc. However I can see one potential problem &#8211; that my work experience runs contrary to what I apply for! What&#8217;s a good apprach to upselling the design experience in an illustration world? That is, show em I&#8217;m an &#8220;illustrator who can design&#8221; :p</p>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin Cameron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2012 20:40:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since Chris said I should ask here... ^^

When considering a concept artist portfolio, I often hear that adding environments is a HUGE plus. However, my specialization lies in character art. Would it be better to have something heavy in environments for the sake of filling a hole that needs to be filled, or show my characters front-and-center, with a few enviros at the end?

Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since Chris said I should ask here&#8230; ^^</p>
<p>When considering a concept artist portfolio, I often hear that adding environments is a HUGE plus. However, my specialization lies in character art. Would it be better to have something heavy in environments for the sake of filling a hole that needs to be filled, or show my characters front-and-center, with a few enviros at the end?</p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
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		<dc:creator>Derrick "Captain Dutz" Utz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2012 03:40:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love this post!!! Thats what I&#039;m talking about, dang experiences and the ghostly vapor..y Captain! I&#039;ll get in your door..then under your skin, cuz I&#039;m weird like that.

This post is what reminds me of your words that have so seriously changed my life this last year, &quot;Do great work and be great to work with.&quot; This progress driven mentality is what I really think was missing from my growth and it has made a world of difference. 

Thank you Chris, I will continue to seek the opportunities and we have many great things ahead!

Dutz out!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love this post!!! Thats what I&#8217;m talking about, dang experiences and the ghostly vapor..y Captain! I&#8217;ll get in your door..then under your skin, cuz I&#8217;m weird like that.</p>
<p>This post is what reminds me of your words that have so seriously changed my life this last year, &#8220;Do great work and be great to work with.&#8221; This progress driven mentality is what I really think was missing from my growth and it has made a world of difference. </p>
<p>Thank you Chris, I will continue to seek the opportunities and we have many great things ahead!</p>
<p>Dutz out!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Disney&#8217;s &#8216;Pixie Hollow Games&#8217; Visual Development Painting: Glimmer by Reilly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reilly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2012 01:08:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i have seen the hunger games and it kinda does look like the Glimmer ( it would more look like her if they put Clove, Cato, Marvel and other people ) lol</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i have seen the hunger games and it kinda does look like the Glimmer ( it would more look like her if they put Clove, Cato, Marvel and other people ) lol</p>
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		<title>Comment on The 2 Secrets To Success In Animation by Chris Oatley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Oatley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 May 2012 02:18:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jose, yes, you are pretty cool.  VERY cool, actually.

Just don&#039;t think that &quot;being great to work with&quot; is ONLY about attitude.  

It&#039;s about making regular, generous, contributions in the small things that are so small nobody else wants to do them and in the huge things that are so huge that nobody else wants to do them.

It&#039;s about anticipating the needs and problems of your colleagues and supervisors and doing everything in your power to provide for those needs and solve their problems.

It&#039;s about going the extra mile and then the extra ten miles and then the extra hundred.  It&#039;s about becoming completely indispensable to the studio.

Having a good attitude is step one.

Does that make sense?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jose, yes, you are pretty cool.  VERY cool, actually.</p>
<p>Just don&#8217;t think that &#8220;being great to work with&#8221; is ONLY about attitude.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s about making regular, generous, contributions in the small things that are so small nobody else wants to do them and in the huge things that are so huge that nobody else wants to do them.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s about anticipating the needs and problems of your colleagues and supervisors and doing everything in your power to provide for those needs and solve their problems.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s about going the extra mile and then the extra ten miles and then the extra hundred.  It&#8217;s about becoming completely indispensable to the studio.</p>
<p>Having a good attitude is step one.</p>
<p>Does that make sense?</p>
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		<dc:creator>Jose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 May 2012 19:52:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well as far attitude I think I&#039;m pretty cool... and for the other it&#039;s a work in progress.

It&#039;s good to know these kinds of things though... 

Thanks Chris!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well as far attitude I think I&#8217;m pretty cool&#8230; and for the other it&#8217;s a work in progress.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s good to know these kinds of things though&#8230; </p>
<p>Thanks Chris!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Steve Umbleby’s Storyboarding Start :: ArtCast #44 by Chris Oatley</title>
		<link>http://chrisoatley.com/2010/04/13/ep44umblebystart/comment-page-1/#comment-5222</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Oatley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 May 2012 03:36:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Marvin!  And Steve is STILL going strong! Just goes to show what can be achieved with hard work and a great attitude!</description>
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		<title>Comment on The 2 Secrets To Success In Animation by Chris Oatley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Oatley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 May 2012 00:13:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah! Got it. And that is a hilarious way of describing it. I&#039;ll probably end up quoting you on that.  ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah! Got it. And that is a hilarious way of describing it. I&#8217;ll probably end up quoting you on that.  <img src='http://chrisoatley.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Ask For The Job by Miguel Lozano</title>
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		<dc:creator>Miguel Lozano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2012 16:50:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Something positive to put into practice. I fall into the vet category and are trying to get hired. Thanks for the tip</description>
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		<title>Comment on How NOT To Arrange A Meeting With An Entertainment Industry Professional by ChrisOatley</title>
		<link>http://chrisoatley.com/2011/04/18/arrangebusymeeting/comment-page-1/#comment-5047</link>
		<dc:creator>ChrisOatley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2012 20:33:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good tip, Drew!</description>
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		<title>Comment on Create Your Own Experience by ChrisOatley</title>
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		<dc:creator>ChrisOatley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2012 20:32:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very true, Frank.  Thanks for the compliment, too!</description>
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		<title>Comment on Create Your Own Experience by ChrisOatley</title>
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		<dc:creator>ChrisOatley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2012 20:31:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re right, Joey.  It does take time, but all you need are a couple of strong relationships to help get you started.  

My industry-break was triggered by ONE friend who recommended me for a gig.  You can read about that in the post called &quot;Ask for the Job&quot; and hear about it in the episode of The Paper Wings Podcast where Lora interviews me:

http://chrisoatley.com/2011/07/11/ask-for-the-job/

http://www.paperwingspodcast.com/2011/08/pwp13chrisoatley/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re right, Joey.  It does take time, but all you need are a couple of strong relationships to help get you started.  </p>
<p>My industry-break was triggered by ONE friend who recommended me for a gig.  You can read about that in the post called &#8220;Ask for the Job&#8221; and hear about it in the episode of The Paper Wings Podcast where Lora interviews me:</p>
<p><a href="http://chrisoatley.com/2011/07/11/ask-for-the-job/" rel="nofollow">http://chrisoatley.com/2011/07/11/ask-for-the-job/</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.paperwingspodcast.com/2011/08/pwp13chrisoatley/" rel="nofollow">http://www.paperwingspodcast.com/2011/08/pwp13chrisoatley/</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on How To Get A Portfolio Critique From An Industry Professional by ChrisOatley</title>
		<link>http://chrisoatley.com/2011/03/04/getacritique/comment-page-1/#comment-5044</link>
		<dc:creator>ChrisOatley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2012 20:28:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you, Scott.  Hoping to increase the momentum, actually.</description>
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		<link>http://chrisoatley.com/2011/03/04/getacritique/comment-page-1/#comment-5043</link>
		<dc:creator>ChrisOatley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2012 20:27:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GOOD!  Thanks, Chris.  

It&#039;s going GREAT.

I&#039;m not sure if you&#039;ve subscribed to my newsletter but I&#039;ve been sharing about it there...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GOOD!  Thanks, Chris.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s going GREAT.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure if you&#8217;ve subscribed to my newsletter but I&#8217;ve been sharing about it there&#8230;</p>
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		<dc:creator>ChrisOatley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2012 20:26:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s hilarious.

In all seriousness, though, a LOT of folks ask me to give them feedback on their portfolios so I&#039;m working on a way to meet that need.

I have a few other higher-priority things in the queue right now but I&#039;m hoping to implement something real by the end of the year.

Stay tuned!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s hilarious.</p>
<p>In all seriousness, though, a LOT of folks ask me to give them feedback on their portfolios so I&#8217;m working on a way to meet that need.</p>
<p>I have a few other higher-priority things in the queue right now but I&#8217;m hoping to implement something real by the end of the year.</p>
<p>Stay tuned!</p>
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		<dc:creator>Jay Fontano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2012 20:18:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris-  Good point for sure, but I was just agreeing with you about the work is what they want to see,  not so much all the &quot;fluff&quot; that is delivering the work.  The page count, logo, etc. would be the fluff.  Basically it doesn&#039;t matter how attractive the wrapper is if the cheeseburger tastes like garbage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris-  Good point for sure, but I was just agreeing with you about the work is what they want to see,  not so much all the &#8220;fluff&#8221; that is delivering the work.  The page count, logo, etc. would be the fluff.  Basically it doesn&#8217;t matter how attractive the wrapper is if the cheeseburger tastes like garbage.</p>
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		<dc:creator>ChrisOatley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2012 19:30:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, Jay,

I&#039;m not sure what you mean by &quot;fluffing it up.&quot;  Do you mean hyping it up with the way you talk about it?

If so, I don&#039;t recommend hype.  Being genuinely excited about your accomplishments, sure.  But not at the expense of alienating others... ...especially those who could hire you.

I try to let the quality of my own work speak for itself but I do enjoy talking about process and technique and struggle etc. with my fellow artists.

I hope that answers your question. If not, just reply and clarify and I&#039;ll give it another shot.  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, Jay,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure what you mean by &#8220;fluffing it up.&#8221;  Do you mean hyping it up with the way you talk about it?</p>
<p>If so, I don&#8217;t recommend hype.  Being genuinely excited about your accomplishments, sure.  But not at the expense of alienating others&#8230; &#8230;especially those who could hire you.</p>
<p>I try to let the quality of my own work speak for itself but I do enjoy talking about process and technique and struggle etc. with my fellow artists.</p>
<p>I hope that answers your question. If not, just reply and clarify and I&#8217;ll give it another shot.  <img src='http://chrisoatley.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<dc:creator>Jay Fontano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2012 17:41:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great stuff Chris.  I will have to remember this as I venture out into the industry soon.  I suppose I need to be confident in my work and not worry about fluffing it up to try to make it appealing-  if it isn&#039;t working on it&#039;s own none of the fluff will help it right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great stuff Chris.  I will have to remember this as I venture out into the industry soon.  I suppose I need to be confident in my work and not worry about fluffing it up to try to make it appealing-  if it isn&#8217;t working on it&#8217;s own none of the fluff will help it right?</p>
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		<link>http://chrisoatley.com/2010/07/14/2secretssuccess/comment-page-1/#comment-5024</link>
		<dc:creator>ChrisOatley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2012 17:29:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re exactly right, Mike.

At Disney, we talk about &quot;right fit&quot; and &quot;cultural match&quot; all the time.

Both mean similar things and it&#039;s all about the effect you have on people.  Lotta artists ignore this area of potential growth at great cost to their careers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re exactly right, Mike.</p>
<p>At Disney, we talk about &#8220;right fit&#8221; and &#8220;cultural match&#8221; all the time.</p>
<p>Both mean similar things and it&#8217;s all about the effect you have on people.  Lotta artists ignore this area of potential growth at great cost to their careers.</p>
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		<dc:creator>ChrisOatley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2012 17:27:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s amazing, Owen.

Clearly, Aardman has incredibly high standards. Good for you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s amazing, Owen.</p>
<p>Clearly, Aardman has incredibly high standards. Good for you!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Ask For The Job by Tegan Clancy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tegan Clancy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2012 07:50:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris great advice! I have also asked for a job at the start of this year! Freelancing around a couple of the companies, I was offered full-time graphic design &amp; illustration roles at a range of companies. But the one freelance place I was being creatively stimulated at, with a wide range of work and awesome clients just kept plotting along with the same small hours.
So I arranged a meeting with them, talked about how great the experience has been working for them, told them about the other  job offers and asked for a full-time job. It was hard as I really didn&#039;t want to loose their work.
And as a result, they were excited that I wanted to stay with them, that they gave me the best contract, working 4 days with the same wage as one of those 5 day contracts, allowing me one day a week I can work solid on my portfolio. So glad I asked!
Hope this helps anyone else in a similar position!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris great advice! I have also asked for a job at the start of this year! Freelancing around a couple of the companies, I was offered full-time graphic design &amp; illustration roles at a range of companies. But the one freelance place I was being creatively stimulated at, with a wide range of work and awesome clients just kept plotting along with the same small hours.<br />
So I arranged a meeting with them, talked about how great the experience has been working for them, told them about the other  job offers and asked for a full-time job. It was hard as I really didn&#8217;t want to loose their work.<br />
And as a result, they were excited that I wanted to stay with them, that they gave me the best contract, working 4 days with the same wage as one of those 5 day contracts, allowing me one day a week I can work solid on my portfolio. So glad I asked!<br />
Hope this helps anyone else in a similar position!</p>
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		<title>Comment on The 2 Secrets To Success In Animation by Owen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Owen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Apr 2012 20:54:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sound advice Chris. 
Being a nice person, having talent and also possessing a healthy amount of persistence seem to be key. These were all factors that helped me get into Aardman and beat the other hoards of other applicants. (Getting a lucky break also helps...)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sound advice Chris.<br />
Being a nice person, having talent and also possessing a healthy amount of persistence seem to be key. These were all factors that helped me get into Aardman and beat the other hoards of other applicants. (Getting a lucky break also helps&#8230;)</p>
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		<title>Comment on Create Your Own Experience by Frank</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Apr 2012 04:20:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is probably a good advice to &lt;em&gt;any&lt;/em&gt; professional. Are you an engineer? Get out there and invent something! A patent is worth more than experience! Are you an administration major? Get out there and start a company! Founder credits are better than managing a really big company! Are you a computer guy? Get out there and write an app! etc. etc.

By the way, digging the new site design!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is probably a good advice to <em>any</em> professional. Are you an engineer? Get out there and invent something! A patent is worth more than experience! Are you an administration major? Get out there and start a company! Founder credits are better than managing a really big company! Are you a computer guy? Get out there and write an app! etc. etc.</p>
<p>By the way, digging the new site design!</p>
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		<dc:creator>Joey McInnis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2012 23:48:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel like this is an issue no one addresses,thanks! At the same time I find it difficult trying to establish relationships through email and self promotion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel like this is an issue no one addresses,thanks! At the same time I find it difficult trying to establish relationships through email and self promotion.</p>
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		<dc:creator>ChrisOatley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2012 21:48:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your encouragement about the new site design, David. Interesting you bring up Art School. Even though I did go to Art School I did not focus on working for the animation industry and thus, I wasn&#039;t prepared.  So I had to learn these kinds of lessons the hard way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your encouragement about the new site design, David. Interesting you bring up Art School. Even though I did go to Art School I did not focus on working for the animation industry and thus, I wasn&#8217;t prepared.  So I had to learn these kinds of lessons the hard way.</p>
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		<link>http://chrisoatley.com/2011/04/18/arrangebusymeeting/comment-page-1/#comment-4728</link>
		<dc:creator>ChrisOatley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2012 21:46:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glad you can learn from my many mistakes, Emmy!  It definitely makes the mistakes worth making.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glad you can learn from my many mistakes, Emmy!  It definitely makes the mistakes worth making.</p>
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		<dc:creator>ChrisOatley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2012 21:45:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are so welcome! It&#039;s the most fulfilling thing in my professional life!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are so welcome! It&#8217;s the most fulfilling thing in my professional life!</p>
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		<dc:creator>ChrisOatley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2012 21:44:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you, Scott.  You&#039;re a PRO at this!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Scott.  You&#8217;re a PRO at this!!!</p>
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